[tlhIngan Hol] What exactly does the {'ej} connect ?

[MorphemeAddict]

It seems you've gotten confused and started using 'relative clause' when
the topic was 'subordinate clause'.

lay'tel SIvten

On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 6:51 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> hmm.. I see..
>
> so, at the sentence {jIyIttaHvIS 'ej jISoptaHvIS, vIghro' vIgho'}, the
> {'ej} *does* connect two sentences:
>
> sentence one: {jIyIt}
> sentence two: {jISop}
>
> the {-taHvIS} just creates relative clauses out of these sentences. right ?
>
> qunnoH
> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>
> On 15 Nov 2016 1:29 pm, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 15 November 2016 at 12:18, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > De'vID;
>> >> Note the part that says {lengtaHvIS... 'ej charghtaSvIS}.
>> >
>> > maj. this answers my question, and shows that the {'ej} is indeed able
>> > to join two "parts of a sentence" (I don't know how else to call
>> > them).
>>
>> Subordinate clauses. See TKD 6.2.2.
>>
>> > and -correct me if I'm wrong-, according to this canon example we
>> > could write too: {qaleghmeH 'ej qa'uchmeH, jIlengta'} for "in order to
>> > see you and in order to hold you, I traveled". Also, we could write
>> > {qaleghDI' 'ej qa'uchDI' jIQuchchoH} for "as soon as I saw you and as
>> > soon as I held you, I became happy"
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>> > however, this does contradict the "strict description" of {'ej}, that
>> > "it is used to join sentences". Unless of course, what I've been
>> > calling "parts of a sentence" are considered to be true sentences..
>>
>> You're thinking about this the wrong way.
>>
>> {'ej} *is* joining two sentence: {loghDaq leng} and {qo'mey Sar chargh}.
>>
>> By applying {-taHvIS} to the verb of a sentence, it becomes a
>> subordinate clause. And what's the verb of the compound sentence
>> {loghDaq leng 'ej qo'mey Sar chargh}? It has two verbs: {leng} and
>> {chargh}.
>>
>> There's no contradiction here. There's an unstated (and I think pretty
>> intuitive) rule that if a sentence is compound, the verb suffixes
>> apply to all the relevant verbs.
>>
>> --
>> De'vID
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