[tlhIngan Hol] Is this acceptable ?

[mayqel qunenoS]

SuStel:
> If you're calling demons qa' Hurgh, why aren't angels qa' wov?

I will write the reply in DIvI' Hol, because I'm replying in order to
explain my choice of klingon words.

The "dark" as an adjective describing the demons, hasn't anything to
do with "evil". "dark" expresses the hidden/secret nature of these
beings, let alone that their appearance is far from "dark" "black" or
"scary". furthermore demons are quite capable of appearing as beings
of light too.

If I described the angels as {qa' wov}, I would be attributing to them
a demonic attribute (appearance-wise), and even worst I would be
describing them indirectly as being "good/loving/innocent", which they
sure as hell aren't.

qunnoH jan puqloD

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 4:16 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> On 11/29/2016 6:37 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
> demons appear, the scared human asks "what are you ?" and the demons
> reply "demons for some, angels for others".
>
> Suppose I write the above in klingon:
>
> nargh qa'pu' Hurgh, 'ej ghel Human'e' lughIjbogh: nuq tlhIH.
> jang qa'pu' Hurgh:
> 'opvaD qa'pu' Hurgh, latlhpu'vaD angels
>
>
> If you're calling demons qa' Hurgh, why aren't angels qa' wov?
>
>
> 1. at the {ghel Human'e' lughIjbogh} I think the {-'e'} isn't
> necessary. Am I correct ?
>
>
> Yes, it is not required or, in this case, even helpful. We do not believe
> that an elided noun or pronoun can be the head noun of a relative clause.
> (Exception: a sound file on the Star Trek: Klingon game has Okrand saying
> Dajatlhbogh vIyajbe', which seems to do exactly this. The sound file was not
> used in the language lab, so we don't know if it's meant to be a complete
> sentence.)
>
>
> 2. at the {'opvaD qa'pu' Hurgh} is the {'opvaD} on its own acceptable,
> or is it absolutely necessary to write something like {'op HumanvaD}
>
>
> Acceptable. I don't see any reason why "some what?" wouldn't be obvious.
>
>
> 3. and most important: since at the above story the context is clear,
> is it correct for the demons' reply to be just {'op HumanvaD qa'pu'
> Hurgh} "demons for some", or is it necessary to write {'op HumanvaD
> qa'pu' Hurgh maH} ?
>
>
> In a formal grammatical sentence, you need a verb. If I understood you to be
> using grammatical shortcuts, I'd be lenient.
>
> 4. If I remember correctly, some time ago we had said that
> {'oppu}/{'opmey} is wrong, right ?
>
>
> I don't know if they're actually wrong, but they don't make a lot of sense
> to me.
>
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