[tlhIngan Hol] The latlh

[SuStel]

On 11/28/2016 6:41 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
> There is something I can't understand with regards to the {latlh}.
>
> first, lets read these canon examples:
>
> {reH latlh qabDaq qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS}
> the fire is always hotter on someone else's face
>
> {latlh HIvje'Daq 'Iw HIq bIr yIqang}
> pour the cold bloodwine into another glass
>
> I want to ask:
>
> 1. the {latlh qabDaq} and the {latlh HIvje'Daq} mean ONLY "the face of
> another" and "the glass of another" respectively, or do/can they mean
> as well "an additional face" and "an additional glass" ?

It can mean any or all of these. *latlh* means all the things associated 
with /other,/ /another, /and/additional//./

*latlh qab
*/another face
another's (someone else's) face
an additional face/

*latlh HIvje'
*/another cup
another's cup
an additional cup/

Which meaning you get from it depends on context.

//

> In case you wonder why I'm asking..
>
> Suppose I want to say "for us there is an additional enemy", so I
> write {maHvaD latlh jagh tu'lu'}. Does this klingon sentence mean
> indeed "for us there is an additional enemy", or does it actually mean
> "for us there is an enemy of another", which doesn't make sense ?

What does the context say? Out of context, I'd probably assume the 
/additional/ meaning, as in "for us there is yet another enemy (which 
hasn't been discussed before)."

But suppose enemies were being matched up. "For you there is your enemy; 
for Bob there is Bob's enemy." Then we want to make the point that /our/ 
enemy is not whom you'd expect. *maHvaD latlh jagh tu'lu'*/for us there 
is someone else's enemy.
/

Sure, that's pretty contrived, but it illustrates that it's not 
impossible to take another meaning based on context.

-- 
SuStel
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