[tlhIngan Hol] What do you make of this ?
mayqel qunenoS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 03:25:13 PST 2016
jIH:
> SorDaq vIghro' law' law', chalDaq bo'Degh law' puS
SuStel
> No. You've left out the {vIleghbogh}.
There is something here I don't understand.
If we say {vIghro' law' law', bo'Degh law' puS}, then this means "the
cats are more numerous than the birds". Why can't we just place a noun
with a {-Daq} in front of the {vIghro'} and {bo'Degh}, with the
sentence acquiring the meaning "at that place the cats are more, than
the birds that are at that (the other place)" ?
qunnoH
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:30 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> Yes. {vIghro' puS law' bo'Degh puS puS} means "the cats are fewer than the
> birds."
>
>
> On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> I got lost with the quotations.
>>
>> SuStel:
>>>
>>> HIja', lajlu'.
>>
>>
>> this {HIja', lajlu'}, refers to the "{vIghro' puS law' bo'Degh puS
>> puS} is this acceptable for "the cats are less than the birds" ?"
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:15 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> HIja', lajlu'.
>>>
>>> On 11/22/2016 11:12 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and something else:
>>>>
>>>> lets say I write:
>>>>
>>>> {vIghro' puS law' bo'Degh puS puS}
>>>>
>>>> is this acceptable for "the cats are less than the birds" ?
>>>>
>>>> qunnoH
>>>> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Nov 2016 6:03 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ok, thanks.
>>>>
>>>> now, going back to andre's suggestion I would like to ask: how can
>>>> the {HoS} and {puj} express the "more" and "less" cats/birds ?
>>>>
>>>> qunnoH
>>>> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Nov 2016 5:20 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name
>>>> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > No. You've left out the {vIleghbogh}.
>>>> >
>>>> > SorDaq vIghro' vIleghbogh law' law' chalDaq bo'Degh vIleghbogh
>>>> law' puS.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 11/22/2016 10:18 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> if I wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> SorDaq vIghro' law' law', chalDaq bo'Degh law' puS
>>>> >>
>>>> >> would this be correct ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> qunnoH
>>>> >> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 22 Nov 2016 4:49 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name
>>>> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>
>>>> >> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "I see more cats in the tree than birds in the sky."
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Perfectly understandable. One might question whether you see
>>>> cats
>>>> >> that are in a tree or you are in a tree when you see cats,
>>>> and
>>>> >> similarly for birds, but Okrand has said this sort of
>>>> ambiguity
>>>> >> exists in Klingon, and is comparable to English's "I shot an
>>>> >> elephant in my pajamas."
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In both your sentences so far, the {-'e'} has been allowed,
>>>> but
>>>> >> unnecessary.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Using words other than {law'} and {puS} in a comparison
>>>> sentence is
>>>> >> considered wordplay, not slang.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 11/22/2016 9:35 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> maj ! so now, lets take this a bit further.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> SorDaq vIghro''e' vIleghbogh law' law', chalDaq
>>>> bo'Degh'e'
>>>> >> vIleghbogh
>>>> >> law' puS.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> what do you think of this ? same questions: does it makes
>>>> sense
>>>> >> ? is it
>>>> >> grammatical ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> qunnoH
>>>> >> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 22 Nov 2016 4:27 pm, "André Müller"
>>>> <esperantist at gmail.com <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>
>>>> >> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>>
>>>> >> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> = I see more cats than birds.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, I understand it and would say it makes sense and
>>>> is
>>>> >> grammatical. Because {law' law'} is a bit weird,
>>>> maybe you
>>>> >> could use
>>>> >> {HoS} and {puj} instead, but that would be considered
>>>> slang.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - André
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2016-11-22 15:15 GMT+01:00 mayqel qunenoS
>>>> <mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>
>>>> >> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>
>>>> >> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>>>:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> vIghro''e' vIleghbogh law' law', bo'Degh'e'
>>>> vIleghbogh
>>>> >> law' puS.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> is this acceptable ? does it make sense ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> qunnoH
>>>> >> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
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