[tlhIngan Hol] What exactly does the {'ej} connect ?

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Tue Nov 15 04:51:07 PST 2016


hmm.. I see..

so, at the sentence {jIyIttaHvIS 'ej jISoptaHvIS, vIghro' vIgho'}, the
{'ej} *does* connect two sentences:

sentence one: {jIyIt}
sentence two: {jISop}

the {-taHvIS} just creates relative clauses out of these sentences. right ?

qunnoH
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 15 Nov 2016 1:29 pm, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15 November 2016 at 12:18, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> > De'vID;
> >> Note the part that says {lengtaHvIS... 'ej charghtaSvIS}.
> >
> > maj. this answers my question, and shows that the {'ej} is indeed able
> > to join two "parts of a sentence" (I don't know how else to call
> > them).
>
> Subordinate clauses. See TKD 6.2.2.
>
> > and -correct me if I'm wrong-, according to this canon example we
> > could write too: {qaleghmeH 'ej qa'uchmeH, jIlengta'} for "in order to
> > see you and in order to hold you, I traveled". Also, we could write
> > {qaleghDI' 'ej qa'uchDI' jIQuchchoH} for "as soon as I saw you and as
> > soon as I held you, I became happy"
>
> Correct.
>
> > however, this does contradict the "strict description" of {'ej}, that
> > "it is used to join sentences". Unless of course, what I've been
> > calling "parts of a sentence" are considered to be true sentences..
>
> You're thinking about this the wrong way.
>
> {'ej} *is* joining two sentence: {loghDaq leng} and {qo'mey Sar chargh}.
>
> By applying {-taHvIS} to the verb of a sentence, it becomes a
> subordinate clause. And what's the verb of the compound sentence
> {loghDaq leng 'ej qo'mey Sar chargh}? It has two verbs: {leng} and
> {chargh}.
>
> There's no contradiction here. There's an unstated (and I think pretty
> intuitive) rule that if a sentence is compound, the verb suffixes
> apply to all the relevant verbs.
>
> --
> De'vID
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