[tlhIngan Hol] A thought on the irrealis construction

[mayqel qunenoS]

mIp'av:
> 'a pa'logh qeltaHvIS, qaSbe'bogh wanI' qelbe'.
> qellaHbe'law'.

If I understand the klingon sentence correctly (and if I don't, then please
correct me) it says: "however, the past while it is considering, it doesn't
consider events which didn't happen. seemingly it isn't able to consider
them".

I think, it is perfectly able to consider events which didn't happen in the
past. Check this out:

"If I hadn't closed the door yesterday, the cat would have been able to
enter the house"

the above in klingon:

{wa'Hu' lojmIt vISoQmoHta'; vISoQbe'moHta' net jalchugh vaj juH 'ellaH
vIghro'}.
"yesterday I closed the door; if one imagines I hadn't closed it,then the
cat would have been able to enter the house".

anyway, if you disagree at anything of the above, I would love to hear your
thoughts.

qunnoH
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 6 Nov 2016 7:41 am, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:35 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 4, 2016 06:47, "Anthony Appleyard" <a.appleyard at btinternet.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Some language textbooks call this sort of sentence an "unreal
>> condition". We need Okrand/Maltz to reveal a one-syllable or two-syllable
>> particle which means "this is not true, but assume for the moment that it
>> is true" or similar, that could be put in if-clauses and when-ckauses and
>> suchlike, and/or into a clause that governs such a clause.
>>
>> {net jalchugh} Dapar'a'?
>>
>> --
>> De'vID
>>
> vIparHa'qu', De'vID. lI'. chaq mu'meyvam lo' tlhIngan, tuch qeltaHvIS. 'a
> pa'logh qeltaHvIS, qaSbe'bogh wanI' qelbe'. qellaHbe'law'. ('a ta' Dun
> lachlaHbej.)
>
> This opening scene from DS9 "Soldiers of the Empire" demonstrates how
> Klingons differ from humans with regard to imagining how things could
> have happened differently.
>
> [Infirmary] (Martok has a shoulder wound.)
> BASHIR: Another three centimetres to the right and you would've severed
> the brachial artery. Autosuture, please. And if that had happened, you
> would have bled to death right there in the holosuite.
> MARTOK: The human fascination with what might have been is tiresome,
> doctor. The artery was not severed and I am not dead.
>
> ~mIp'av
>
>
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