[tlhIngan Hol] What do you make of this ?

[mayqel qunenoS]

jIH:
> SorDaq vIghro' law' law', chalDaq bo'Degh law' puS
SuStel
> No. You've left out the {vIleghbogh}.

There is something here I don't understand.

If we say {vIghro' law' law', bo'Degh law' puS}, then this means "the
cats are more numerous than the birds". Why can't we just place a noun
with a {-Daq} in front of the {vIghro'} and {bo'Degh}, with the
sentence acquiring the meaning "at that place the cats are more, than
the birds that are at that (the other place)" ?

qunnoH


On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:30 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> Yes. {vIghro' puS law' bo'Degh puS puS} means "the cats are fewer than the
> birds."
>
>
> On 11/22/2016 11:21 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>
>> I got lost with the quotations.
>>
>> SuStel:
>>>
>>> HIja', lajlu'.
>>
>>
>> this {HIja', lajlu'}, refers to the "{vIghro' puS law' bo'Degh puS
>> puS} is this acceptable for "the cats are less than the birds" ?"
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 6:15 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>>>
>>> HIja', lajlu'.
>>>
>>> On 11/22/2016 11:12 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and something else:
>>>>
>>>> lets say I write:
>>>>
>>>> {vIghro' puS law' bo'Degh puS puS}
>>>>
>>>> is this acceptable for "the cats are less than the birds" ?
>>>>
>>>> qunnoH
>>>> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 22 Nov 2016 6:03 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     ok, thanks.
>>>>
>>>>     now, going back to andre's suggestion I would like to ask: how can
>>>>     the {HoS} and {puj} express the "more" and "less" cats/birds ?
>>>>
>>>>     qunnoH
>>>>     ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>>
>>>>     On 22 Nov 2016 5:20 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name
>>>>     <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     > No. You've left out the {vIleghbogh}.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > SorDaq vIghro' vIleghbogh law' law' chalDaq bo'Degh vIleghbogh
>>>>     law' puS.
>>>>     >
>>>>     >
>>>>     > On 11/22/2016 10:18 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> if I wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> SorDaq vIghro' law' law', chalDaq bo'Degh law' puS
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> would this be correct ?
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> qunnoH
>>>>     >> ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> On 22 Nov 2016 4:49 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name
>>>>     <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>
>>>>     >> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>     "I see more cats in the tree than birds in the sky."
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>     Perfectly understandable. One might question whether you see
>>>> cats
>>>>     >>     that are in a tree or you are in a tree when you see cats,
>>>> and
>>>>     >>     similarly for birds, but Okrand has said this sort of
>>>> ambiguity
>>>>     >>     exists in Klingon, and is comparable to English's "I shot an
>>>>     >>     elephant in my pajamas."
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>     In both your sentences so far, the {-'e'} has been allowed,
>>>> but
>>>>     >>     unnecessary.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>     Using words other than {law'} and {puS} in a comparison
>>>>     sentence is
>>>>     >>     considered wordplay, not slang.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>     On 11/22/2016 9:35 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>         maj ! so now, lets take this a bit further.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>         SorDaq vIghro''e' vIleghbogh law' law', chalDaq
>>>> bo'Degh'e'
>>>>     >>         vIleghbogh
>>>>     >>         law' puS.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>         what do you think of this ? same questions: does it makes
>>>>     sense
>>>>     >>         ? is it
>>>>     >>         grammatical ?
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>         qunnoH
>>>>     >>         ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>         On 22 Nov 2016 4:27 pm, "André Müller"
>>>>     <esperantist at gmail.com <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>
>>>>     >>         <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >>         <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com> <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:esperantist at gmail.com>>>>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>         wrote:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>             = I see more cats than birds.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>             Yes, I understand it and would say it makes sense and
>>>> is
>>>>     >>             grammatical. Because {law' law'} is a bit weird,
>>>>     maybe you
>>>>     >>         could use
>>>>     >>             {HoS} and {puj} instead, but that would be considered
>>>>     slang.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>             - André
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>             2016-11-22 15:15 GMT+01:00 mayqel qunenoS
>>>>     <mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>
>>>>     >>         <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>
>>>>     >>             <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>
>>>>     <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>>>:
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>                 vIghro''e' vIleghbogh law' law', bo'Degh'e'
>>>>     vIleghbogh
>>>>     >>         law' puS.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>                 is this acceptable ? does it make sense ?
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >>                 qunnoH
>>>>     >>                 ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
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