[tlhIngan Hol] A thought on the irrealis construction

[mayqel qunenoS]

mIp'av:
> {net jalchugh} bop'a' mu'meylIj Qav? 'angpu'chugh matlh, vaj jIjIv.

Yes, they do. The {net jalchugh}, was revealed by maltz. See earlier
in the thread the message from lieven, but in case you missed it, here
it is again:

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I wanted to wait until after the qepHom, but as you mentioned this
topic, here is what Maltz has revealed to us just now:

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For a statement that's counterfactual (or "irrealis"), a phrase with
the verb jal ("imagine, envision") is used: ... net jalchugh ("if one
imagines that…", "if it is imagined that…"). For example:

tlhIngan SoH net jalchugh, qagh DatIv
This is "If you were a Klingon, you would enjoy gagh" or, literally,
"If one imagines that you are a Klingon, you would enjoy gagh."

The implication is that you are not a Klingon. Compare:

qaghwIj DaSopchugh, qaHoH
"If you eat my gagh, I'll kill you."
qaghwIj DaSop net jalchugh, qaHoH

"If you were eating my gagh, I would kill you"
(literally: "If one imagines that you are eating my gagh…").

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qunnoH jan puqloD

2016-11-07 6:52 GMT+02:00 Ed Bailey <bellerophon.modeler at gmail.com>:
> {net jalchugh} bop'a' mu'meylIj Qav? 'angpu'chugh matlh, vaj jIjIv.
>
> ngoD laj vaj, 'ach qaSbe'bogh wanI'qoq buSHa' SuvwI' neH 'e' DaHarchugh,
> bImuj. jallaHqu' tlhIngan tej 'ach wanI'qoqmeyvam SaHbe' je 'e' vIHar.
> toj'egh neHbe' 'ej poH natlh neHbe'. qaSbe'bogh wanI'qoq qelmeH qaSpu'bogh
> wanI'na' buSHa'nIS, 'a wanI'na' buSHa'qangbe'. meqvammo' loQ wIHnIS. QapmeH
> loQ wIHnIS tera'ngan tej je, vaj tlhIngan tej rurnIS. wanI'na' wanI'qoq je
> jojHeyDaq majoqtaHvIS, mapay pagh mabIt'eghmoH 'a DI'ruj wIbambe'. yab
> Sengvammo' tlhIngan vonbe'lu', vaj nughojmoHlaH tlhIngan.
>
> tlhoy jalQo'meH tlhIngan, latlh meq tu'lu', 'a chaq Doghlaw'. qo' jallu'bogh
> luDab tlhIngan, vaj nuq lujal tlhIngan? qo'Hommey jal'a'? qo'HomHommey
> jal'a' qo'Homngan? ghorgh Dor mIwvam? 'a jIDachchoH.
>
> meqmey law'mo' tlhIngan vIjal 'ej 'e' vItIv. DaH meqmeywIj wa' vIja'. maDogh
> Human mut 'e' lu'anglaH tlhIngan. wanI' DuHbe' wIjalmeH poH wInatlh 'e'
> lu'ang tlhIngan. maHvaD neSlo' lumuch tlhIngan.
>
> ~mIp'av
>
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