[tlhIngan Hol] {'er'In} {megh'an} and {qa'rI'}

[mayqel qunenoS]

thank you Ca'non master !

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> mayqel qunenoS:
>>> If {'er'In} is used for one end, then {megh'an} is used for the other.
>>> Do we have any similar analogy for the {qa'rI'} ?
>>>     [....]
>>> If anyone would like to look into it, then HolQeD 12.2 Jun. 2003,
>>> (which-of-course-I-don't-have-because-if-I-did-I-wouldn't-be-asking)
>>> could provide some insight on the matter.
>
> That's my cue...
>
> (HQ 12.2:7-8):  This can refer to either end of the rope, stick or whatever, but once you arbitrarily choose an end to call {megh'an}, the OTHER end is called {'er'In}. Before you make this initial reference, either end can be called either {'er'In} or {megh'an}.
>    For the end of a longish enclosed space that one is typically inside of or experiences from the inside, such as a corridor, tunnel, or conduit (say, a Jefferies tube or a branch of the sewers of Paris), a different word is used: {qa'rI'}. This is the only word; it's used for both (or all) ends. The open entryway leading into such a space is called a {DIn}. If there's a door there, it's referred to by the usual word for door, {lojmIt}. {qa'rI'} is also used for the end of bounded space which is seen as having length even if it is not enclosed space. Thus, it is used for the end of a road, the end of a bridge, the end of a long field. (Maltz didn't think it would mean much of anything to refer to the {qa'rI'} of a square field.)
>    On the other hand, if a bridge is under construction and lies halfway across a river or gorge or freeway, it may be said to have a {megh'an} (or {'er'In}). One could, in theory, hang a sign or flag from the {megh'an} (or {'er'In}), but one could walk on this incomplete bridge only as far as the {qa'rI'}.
>
>   naQ 'er'In yI'uch.
>   Grasp the end of the stick. (HQ 12.2)
>
>   naQ 'er'In yI'uchHa'.
>   Let go of the end of the stick. (HQ 12.2)
>
>   naQ megh'an 'er'In je tI'uch
>   naQ 'er'In megh'an je tI'uch
>   Grasp both ends of the stick.
>   ("grasp the end and the other end of the stick") (HQ 12.2)
>
>   naQ megh'an 'er'In ghap yI'uch
>   naQ 'er'In megh'an ghap yI'uch
>   Grasp either end of the stick.
>   ("grasp the end or the other end of the stick") (HQ 12.2)
>
>>> And before you say {DIn}, here is the problem ; If I use {qa'rI'} to
>>> describe the end of a corridor or tunnel, then I could use {DIn} to
>>> describe the other end. But if I use {qa'rI'}, to describe the end of
>>> something which is not enclosed (road, bridge, long field etc), then
>>> what do I use for the other end? {DIn} is only to be used for
>>> enclosed spaces.
>
> "The open entryway leading into such a space is called a {DIn}. If there's a door there, it's referred to by the usual word for door, {lojmIt}."
>
>>> Also, could I use {qa'rI'} to describe both ends of the same structure?
>
> Yes:  "a different word is used: {qa'rI'}. This is the only word; it's used for both (or all) ends."
>
> PRIVATE PUN:
> At qep'a' wa'maHDIch (2003) Okrand revealed that his nieces, Erin and Meghan, are twins and that Kari is their mother.
>
> SEE ALSO:
> latlh   other one, another one (n)
> chob    corridor (n)
> 'och            tunnel (n)
> QI              bridge (n)
> naQ             cane, staff, stick (n)
> tlhegh          line, rope (n)
>
>
> --
> Voragh
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>
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