[tlhIngan-Hol] Sentence as subject

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Fri Jun 3 23:51:11 PDT 2016

thank you all very much !

I understand now, what a "sentence as subject" actually is.

SuvwI' Hol vIyajqu'meH tuQaHta'mo', tlho'wIj boghajqa' !
because you helped me in order to better understand the warrior's
tongue, once more you have my gratitude !


On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Alan Anderson <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:28 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I remember reading somewhere (I think in the wiki), that sentence as
>> subject is not allowed.
>> However, I can't understand how someone can use a sentence as subject
>> in the first place.
>> Can someone write an example of a sentence as subject, so that I will
>> understand, what someone is supposed to avoid ?
> ---> It is normal that we can write such an English sentence.
> The verb is "be normal".
> The subject is "it", which is a cataphoric stand-in for the sentence
> which follows the verb.
> In Klingon grammar, some people try to write sentences like this, with
> the pronoun {'e'} in the object spot for a verb that doesn't usually
> make sense with an object. That looks right after being translated
> into English, but the grammar is not supported in Klingon. We can
> rephrase the English thus:
> ---> That we can write such an English sentence is normal.
> Translating this directly into Klingon would end up with {'e'} in the
> subject spot, and {'e'} is only ever an object.
> For example, if you want to ask "Is it important that I understand
> this idea?", do NOT translate it as {*potlh'a' 'e' qechvam vIyaj}.
> Rephrase it to get rid of what looks like a sentence as object,
> because it is actually a sentence as subject, and Klingon has no
> straightforward tool for doing that.
> -- ghunchu'wI'
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