[tlhIngan Hol] Disturbing irregularities

[mayqel qunenoS]

DevID:
> the answer to {'Iv SoH} should take the form
> {X SoH} (and not {X jIH}). {SoH 'Iv} avoids this problem.

I can't understand this. Why when someone asks me {'Iv SoH}, I can't
reply saying {mayqel jIH}, and be consistent with the TKD ?

I would be placing the answer {mayqel} at the place of the {'Iv} and I
would have replaced -necessarily- the {SoH}, with {jIH}. Is this
replacement, the point you're trying to make ?

Do you mean, that by using {SoH 'Iv} and replying {mayqel jIH}, the
replacement matter is overcome, because the answer doesn't just
replace the {'Iv} of the {'Iv SoH} (if we had used it), but employs a
different word order altogether ?

But if that's the case, then the {SoH 'Iv}, not only it doesn't
address any matter at all, but it contradicts the rule that "the {'Iv}
takes the place of the answer in a
sentence", since the answer {mayqel jIH}, doesn't just replace the
{'Iv} but changes the word order altogether.

This whole matter resembles quick sand ; the more I try to understand,
the deeper I get..

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:24 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22 June 2016 at 15:43, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> SoH 'Iv and 'Iv SoH appear in both forms because (a) Okrand probably forgot
>> he did it one way, and (b) 'Iv is a kind of pronoun too, so either word can
>> satisfy the pronoun part of a to-be sentence.
>
> Whether {SoH 'Iv} came about because Okrand forgot that you could
> write {'Iv SoH} or he did it deliberately, I think it makes more
> sense. TKD 6.4 explains that {'Iv} takes the place of the answer in a
> sentence. If we strictly follow TKD "by the book" (and of course I
> should mention it's only a grammatical sketch), the answer to {'Iv
> SoH} should take the form {X SoH} (and not {X jIH}). {SoH 'Iv} avoids
> this problem. But both appear in canon, so apparently both are
> acceptable.
>
> --
> De'vID
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