[tlhIngan Hol] [tlhIngan-Hol] Hergh ngevwI'

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Wed Jun 8 09:04:37 PDT 2016

ok, this is becoming confusing ;

and to make things even worst, this question came to my mind minutes ago..

.. someone builds a completely automated physical store, which store
sells medical products. wouldn't we be able to call that store Hergh
ngevwI' ?

and then we have the Hergh QaywI'. If we analyze the QaywI', then we
see that the {Qay} means to transfer. However the given translation,
doesn't refer to a person who transfers ; it rather refers to a thing,
which transfers.

Unless the definition of {Hergh ngevwI'} as "being the person who
does", comes directly from 'oqranD, then why couldn't we use it to
describe the store as well ?

So, the million dollar question is this :

Does the definition of {Hergh ngevwI'}, as "the person who does", come
directly from 'oqranD ?


On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> {Hergh ngevwI'} refers to the person who sells, or to the store which
>>> sells ? Or both ?
> De'vID:
>> It refers to the person. In the TalkNow! Klingon softwhere {ngevwI'} and
>> {Hergh ngevwI'} are used, the pronoun {ghaH} is used.
>> But see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metonymy (or maybe
>> https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Μετωνυμία is more appropriate)
>   nuqDaq ghaH Hergh ngevwI''e'
>   Where is the chemist? (TNK)
> Another example from TalkNow! is:
>   nuqDaq ghaH ngevwI''e'
>   Where is the shop? (TNK)
> On the other hand a {Hergh QaywI'} "pneumatic hypo" (also called a hypospray and hyposyringe in Trek) is a medical device, lit. "thing which transfers medicine".
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