[tlhIngan Hol] Can I use verb type 9 suffix {-wI'}, after other suffixes ?

[Steven Boozer]

Such nouns are not very common – so don’t go crazy -  but they are allowed.  Here are a few more I could find:

ngaQHa'moHwI'  key (TNK)

bochmoHwI'     sycophant, flatterer, one who tries to curry
favor by flattering a superior (slang) KGT

chenmoHwI'     creator,  maker KGT
              (e.g. Hew chenmoHwI' sculptor)

najmoHwI'      lullaby (n) KGT

ngaDmoHwI'     stabilizer (component of a ship) KGT

wovmoHwI'      light (device) KBoP (n)
              (e.g. wovmoHwI' moQ  light bulb (TNK)

yIntaHwI'      living (person),  the living PB
jubbe'wI'      mortal (person) (n) PB
Heghpu'wI'     dead (person),  the dead PB


yoymoHwI'      inverter (device) (n)

pIlHa'wI'      "unmotivated one" (i.e. one who is apathetic)
SaHHa'wI'      one who is not concerned (i.e. one who is apathetic))
quvHa'wI'      dishonored one



From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of André Müller
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Can I use verb type 9 suffix {-wI'}, after other suffixes ?

Yes, there's no problem with it. If the semantics still make sense after nominalizing a verb with {-wI'} I see no problem. You could describe someone who is willing to learn Klingon as a {ghojqangwI'}, and someone who is afraid to speak a {jatlhvIpwI'}. And so on... we also have a few examples of canonical words involving {-wI'} and a verbal suffix:
* {QaDmoHwI' DIr} = towel (lit.: dry-maker skin)
* {Say'moHwI' tlhagh} = soap (lit.: clean-maker fat)
* {Sut HabmoHwI'} = iron (lit.: clothing smooth-maker)
I see no reason to think that this shouldn't work with other suffixes just as well.
What's arguable not possible (but we don't know for sure, I think) is using {-wI'} on a verb with prefixes. I would probably not accept ?{muparHa'wI'} as a word for 'someone who likes me'.
- André

2016-06-27 15:40 GMT+02:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>:
So far, I considered verb type 9 suffix {-wI'), as a suffix, one could
use on a verb, which verb didn't have a preceding suffix. And I really
don't know why I had that impression.

But recently, at another thread, I saw someone using the verb type 9
suffix {-wI'}, on a verb which had another type of verb suffix,
preceding the {-wI'}.

So, I want to ask ; is this allowed ? Can I place the verb type 9
suffix, on a verb which has another verb suffix, preceding ?

Of course the question would be : "why would you want to ?". Right now
I can't think of a reason. However I remember that the person who had
used it this way, had actually created a construction which made
perfect sense, and was appropriate for the occasion.

mop Hurgh qunnoq
QeH SeHlu'bogh Hol 'oH tlhIngan Hol'e'
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