[tlhIngan Hol] Goat animal

[Robyn Stewart]

cat rurbogh tlhIngan Ha'DIbaH 'oH vIghro''e'. tera' cat vIperchu' vIneHchugh, cat jIjatlh. 

> On Jul 28, 2016, at 11:12, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Qov:
>> Stop rebuilding the Klingon world to make it more like yours. It’s like eating at McDonald’s while on vacation in France.
> 
> wejpuH..
> 
> toH, cat DelmeH 'oqranD, mu' {vIghro'} chenmoHDI' vaj qay'wI' tu'lu'be' ;
> 
> 'a latlh Ha'DIbaH mu' tlhoblu'DI' vaj qIchlu'. maSagh'a' ?
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
>> At qep’a’, ghunchu’wi’ and I were reading aloud to each other from Green
>> Eggs, just translating on the fly.  When we got to the page with the goat,
>> we just left it at “goat”.  It’s an Earth creature.  It has a shape, an
>> odour, a set of behaviours, a history in literature and a whole raft of
>> connotations. Why would you want to substitute another animal that can’t
>> possibly be the same?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You don’t find it necessary to change out the targs in Klingon stories for
>> some kind of Earth animal, do you?  Why do the same if you want a goat.  If
>> what you really really want is an animal that is like a goat in every way
>> except that it is native to Qo’noS then tera’ goat rurchu’bogh Qo’noS
>> Ha’DIbaH’e’ ‘oH. Maybe when a Klingon says “goat,” it’s going to come out a
>> bit like qot or ghot. The latter will go nicely with the fact that the
>> English word for goatHom is the same as the English word for puq.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Stop rebuilding the Klingon world to make it more like yours. It’s like
>> eating at McDonald’s while on vacation in France.
>> 
>> pItlh.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of
>> Felix Malmenbeck
>> Sent: July 25, 2016 11:05
>> 
>> 
>> To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
>> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Goat animal
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> The word wasn't invented by Marc Okrand himself, but
>> 
>>> by the author of the novel. I think, however, Okrand
>> 
>>> vetted the new Klingon words in it.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> According to the author (Keith R.A. DeCandido), Marc Okrand only vetted the
>> glossary for "Diplomatic Implausibility". The glossary for "Honor Bound" was
>> presumably vetted by 'angghal or somebody else from the KLI.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Source: https://twitter.com/KRADeC/status/91641513691459584
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Also, according to DeCandido, the bolmaq is more similar to a hyena than a
>> sheep. I believe I asked this question in connection with the Minecraft
>> translation.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Source: https://twitter.com/KRADeC/status/219789081108946944
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> There is a creature known to Klingons that is called a "Degebian mountain
>> goat", which is an eight-legged creature native to Degeb IV which incredibly
>> good at climbing. I don't suppose that helps much with translations,
>> however.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The minn'hor is a beast of burden (similar to cattle), the milk of which is
>> used to make cheese.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I wrote a summary of Klingon-related animals I knew of a few years back
>> (which unfortunately I've lost the original file for, so I can't update it
>> without quite some bit of work; I will however make an effort to enter all
>> relevant entries into the Extended Corpus, which I'm sorry to say I've been
>> insufficiently diligent in updating).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Here is the document:
>> 
>> http://people.kth.se/~felixm/Klingon+animals.pdf
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>> 
>> 
>> I see that I accidentally described the Degebian mountain goat as
>> quadrupetal [sic], which is wrong both in fact and in spelling.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> on behalf of André
>> Müller <esperantist at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 19:00
>> To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
>> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Goat animal
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In the "extended" canon (in this case the novel "Honor Bound") there is the
>> so-called {bolmaq}, a native animal of Boreth, which makes a bleating sound
>> and tends to run around in circles.
>> 
>> The word wasn't invented by Marc Okrand himself, but by the author of the
>> novel. I think, however, Okrand vetted the new Klingon words in it.
>> 
>> I used {bolmaq} to describe a sheep once.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2016 18:54, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a klingon animal, which resembles the terran goat ?
>> 
>> mop qIj
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