[tlhIngan Hol] Words for tools
mayqel qunenoS
mihkoun at gmail.com
Tue Jul 12 08:35:22 PDT 2016
hahaha !!!
whenever I hear, read or think the word {Doy'} I can't stop laughing
because I remember this :
http://klingonska.org/canon/2004-03-holqed-13-1.txt
"..With that, Maltz said {jIH Doy' law' SoH Doy' puS} (<I am more
tired than you are>) and left the room, muttering something about
considering the next Frasier request at another time.."
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> qunnoq:
>>> (KGT 163): The word {Qop} means “be worn out” and is usually
>>> applied to old weapons, tools, mechanical devices, and the like.
>
> Here's the full quote:
>
> (KGT 163): The word {Qop} means "be worn out" and is usually applied to old weapons, tools, mechanical devices, and the like. It is also used to mean "be dead," but only in reference to an animal that one was expecting to eat live. If a bowl of dead {qagh} ("*gagh*, serpent worms") is placed before a Klingon, the disappointed diner will probably criticize the cook for preparing {qagh Qop} ("dead *gagh*"). The normal way to say "be dead," referring to a person or animal, is by using the form {Heghpu'} ("has died"): {Heghpu' SuvwI'} ("The warrior has died"). It is not appropriate to say {SuvwI' Qop} ("dead warrior, worn-out warrior.")
>
>> this is a beautiful application of the word {Qop}; but I need to ask.
>> does this mean that we can't use {Qop} in order to say "I'm worn out"
>> as in "I'm very tired"?
>
> That's how I read it: "only in reference to an animal ... It is not appropriate to say {SuvwI' Qop}."
>
> {Doy'} "be tired" in canon:
>
> puq Doy'
> tired child TKD
>
> wa'leS jIDoy'
> Tomorrow I'll be tired. CK
>
> jIDoy'qu'
> I am very tired. PK
>
> jIDoy'be'
> I am NOT tired! PK
>
> jIH Doy' law' SoH Doy' puS
> I am more tired than you are (HQ 13.1:10)
>
> mu'mey Doy'
> "tired words" (refers to older Klingons' language) [KGT 35]
>
> The only way I know of to say "I'm very tired, I'm exhausted, etc." is simply {jIDoy'qu'}. You can always add one of the Type 6 (qualification) suffixes to add nuance: {-ba'} obviously; {-bej} certainly, undoubtedly, definitely; {-chu'} clearly, perfectly; {-law'} it seems (to be), apparently.
>
> Since soldiers like to gripe Klingons may well have slang expressions for this - in fact, I'd be surprised if they didn't - but we don't know them.
>
> SEE ALSO:
> QopmoH wear out (TKD K-E only)
> ngo' be old (not new) (v)
> qan be old (not young) (v)
> tIQ be ancient (v)
> notlh be obsolete (v)
> ghoQ be fresh, be just killed (meat) (v)
>
>
>
> --
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>
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