[tlhIngan Hol] Five Little Bunnies by Dan Yaccarino (Children's Book)

[mayqel qunenoS]

> maja'chuqjaj?
> Can we talk?

isn't here an interrogative {-'a'} missing ? and hold on a minute !
how can we place the {-'a'} which is a type 9 verb suffix, on a word
which already has a type 9 verb suffix ? hmm ?

so, if we apply the rules strictly, we can't use {-jaj} in order to
create yes/no questions..

> lenglIj lutebjaj lengwIjvaD bel rap, Sov rap, ngoQ rap je
> Danobpu'bogh
> May your journey be filled with the same joy, wisdom, and
> purpose you have given mine. (Frasier)

there is something I don't like with the placement of the {lengwIjvaD}
; perhaps it has to do, with me being used to seeing the {-vaD} at the
beginning.

mIv Hurgh qunnoq

On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 8:46 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> 'arHa':
>>>> The first bunny said, "We're here! Let's stop!
>>>> {mapawta’! mamevjaj!} jatlh Qa'Hom wa'DIch.
>
> ghunchu'wI':
>>> I'm not sure {-jaj} is the right tool for this kind of "Let's do it"
>>> meaning. I'd simply say {mamev}, but it could just be a matter of
>>> style.
>
> qunnoq:
>> As a matter of fact, when I read 'arHa's original post, I thought of
>> commenting on this one but I didn't, because I wasn't 100% sure.
>>
>> ghunchu'wI''s comment verifies my understanding of {-jaj} ; it is to be
>> used only in a manner of expressing a wish whether this is a stand-alone
>> wish, or it is a wish spoken during a toast.
>>
>> I don't think {-jaj} can be used in order to express "are we allowed to
>> (whatever) or are we able to (whatever)".
>
> Here's a quick dump of what I have in my notes on {-jaj} "may, can, let" (V9: syntactic marker):
>
>
> jaghpu'lI' DaghIjjaj
> May you scare your enemies! TKD
>
> tlhonchaj chIljaj
> May they lose their nostrils! TKD
>
> 'IwlIj jachjaj
> May your blood scream! TKD
>
> taHjaj boq.
> [untranslated] (TKD 173)
>
> maja'chuqjaj?
> Can we talk? PK
>
> reH tlhIngan wo' taHjaj
> May the Klingon Empire continue forever! PK
> (i.e. Long live the Klingon Empire!)
>
> reH tlhInganpu' taHjaj
> Klingons forever! PK
>
> bInajtaHvIS qeylIS Daghomjaj
> May you encounter Kahless in your dreams! PK
>
> bItuHpa' bIHeghjaj
> Death before shame. PK
>
> 'Iw bIQtIqDaq bIlengjaj
> May you travel the River of Blood! PK
>
> 'oy' DaSIQjaj
> May you endure the pain! PK
>
> QuvlIjDaq yIH tu'be'lu'jaj
> May your coordinates be free of tribbles! PK
>
> reH HIvje'lIjDaq 'Iwghargh Datu'jaj
> May you always find a bloodworm in your glass! PK
>
> jagh lucharghlu'ta'bogh HuH ghopDu'lIj lungaSjaj
> May the bile of the vanquished fill your hands! PK
>
> jaghpu'lI' DaghIjjaj
> May you scare your enemies! PK
>
> bISuvtaHvIS bIHeghjaj
> May you die in battle! PK
>
> jaghmeylI' DaghIjjaj, qetjaj jaghmeylI'
> May you scare your enemies, may your enemies run). TKW
>
> batlh bIHeghjaj
> May you die well! TKW
>
> Dajonlu'pa' bIHeghjaj
> May you die before you are captured. TKW
>
> bItuHpa' bIHeghjaj
> May you die before you are shamed.  KCD/STK
>
> SoSwI' vavwI' je quvmoHjaj paqvam
> [untranslated KGT dedication] KGT
>
> chotwI' DaSamjaj
> May you find the murderer. KGT
>
> jejjaj tajlIj
> May your knife be sharp. KGT
>
> tajlIj jejjaj
> May your knife be sharp. (toast) KGT
>
> wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran
> May Gowron continue to lead the empire. KGT (sic!)
> [verbs with -jaj don't take Type 7 suffixes]
>
> wo' ghawran DevtaHjaj
> May Gowron continue to lead the Empire (toast) KGT
>
> lenglIj lutebjaj lengwIjvaD bel rap, Sov rap, ngoQ rap je
>  Danobpu'bogh
> May your journey be filled with the same joy, wisdom, and
>  purpose you have given mine. (Frasier)
>
> vaDjaj yaDDu'lIj
> may your toes be flexible ("apparently a wish for good fortune,
>  or something of the sort.") (HQ 10.2:11)
>
> reH batlh SuvtaHjaj chaH
> Let endless battle and honor await them! PB
>
> tayvam tIQ wIlopchoHjaj
> Let us commence this ancient rite. PB
>
> yab matlh muvchuqghach Sorgh vay' 'e' vIbotjaj.
> Let me not to the marriage of true minds admit impediments. (Sonnet 116)
>
> (TKD 175f):  This suffix is used to express a desire or wish on the part of the speaker that something take place in the future. When it is used, there is never a Type 7 aspect suffix. {-jaj} is often translated with "may" or "let", and it is particularly useful when placing a curse or making a toast.
>
> (KGT 26):  In a divergence from the majority of Klingon dialects, the speakers of Sakrej and No'hvadut ... do not follow this pattern. In these dialects, there is no reforming of the sentences for toasts; the subject always follows the verb. Thus, as toasts, {jejjaj tajlIj} (May your knife be sharp) and {wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran} (May Gowron continue to lead the empire) are perfectly acceptable, even though the verb ending with {-jaj} is not the last thing in the sentence.
>
> (Lieven 12/12/2013):  [Maltz] said he has been asked before about Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. He thought they were silly things to say (and, of course, there are no traditional Klingon ways to say these things), but he said that if you have to say Happy New Year, you could say {DIS chu' yItIv} or {DIS chu' DatIvjaj} or {DIS chu' botIvjaj} or the like. For Merry Christmas, he wasn't so sure. He said that perhaps you could use the name of the holiday (which would be {QISmaS}) and say {QISmaS yItIv} or {QISmaS DatIvjaj} and so on. He thought that people who know about Christmas would understand that.
>
>
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