[tlhIngan Hol] mutpu' or mutmey ?

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Thu Dec 29 07:13:20 PST 2016

qunnoH, look at other words for groups of people and how possessive suffixes (WRT capability of using language) are used with them:

qorDu'wIj quvmo' jImaghpu' qorDu'wIj quvqa'moHlu'meH jIvang vIneH
The reason of my betrayal was my family honor, I want to restore this honor. (PB)

  NB:  {qorDu'wIj} not *{qorDu'wI'} - both times.

pInaDqu' tuqlIj wInaDqu' je
Glory to you and your house.
("We praise you highly; we also praise your house highly.") KGT

  NB:  {tuqlIj} not *{tuqlI'}.

Qo'noS tuqmey muvchuqmoH qeylIS
Kahless united the tribes of Kronos (PB)

  NB:  {tuqmey} not *{tuqpu'}.

qeylIS loDnI' 'opleS chovan tuqmaj vIDevmo'
One day, brother Kahless, you will bow before me as leader of our house. PB

  NB:  {tuqmaj} not *{tuqma'}.

jaghpu'ra' bopujmoHtaHvIS, ghur tuqmeyraj quv.
Honor will rise in your houses as you bring your enemies to their knees. MKE

  NB:  {tuqmeyraj} not *{tuqpu'ra'} -  two such suffixes (a "twofer").


On 12/29/2016 9:43 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
if we are talking about 10 species of aliens, all capable of speech, then do we say {Hoch mutpu' vISov} or {Hoch mutmey vISov} ?

A mut is not a thing capable of using language. Its members are, but it is not. It is an abstraction.



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