[tlhIngan Hol] {-lIvIS}

[mayqel qunenoS]

mIp'av:
> As for rovers, does anyone even have a
> definite idea what effect {-qu'} or {-be'} would
> have following {-taH} ?

lets write an example..

{jIvumtaH} "I am continuously working".

{jIvumtaHqu'} "I am very much continuously working". I would understand
this as someone trying to emphasize the "continuously", though I can't say
that in my mind there is much difference between the {-taH} and the
{-taHqu'}. after all there are 24 hours in the day, right ? If someone says
"I am working continuously", then the maximum I can understand is those 24
hours. I don't see how the {-qu'}, can add more to this.

{jIvumtaHbe'} "I am not continuously working". I think this does make
sense, and its ok to use it.

now, if your original question was with regards to rovers being placed
after the {-taH} in the {-taHvIS}, then I think that the resulting sentence
wouldn't make sense.

"while I am very much continuously working", "while I am not continuously
working". I don't know.. I just can't *feel* what exactly these sentence
could mean, or in which situations they would be appropriate.

let alone the fact, that if we were to apply a rover in the aforementioned
manner, then why place it right after the {-taH}, and not after the
{-taHvIS} ? the way I understand it, practically, the {-vIS} and {-taHvIS}
are essentially the same. so, if we were to apply a rover, we could place
it right after the {-taHvIS}, thus avoiding splitting them up, since they
always seem to like so much each other.

qunnoH jan puqloD
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On 23 Dec 2016 3:07 pm, "Ed Bailey" <bellerophon.modeler at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 6:15 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> but as you cleverly pointed out, there is a problem with the placement
>> of {-neS}. If I want to say "while you were doing me the honor of
>> being present", then is the {bISaHtaHneSvIS} correct ?
>
>
> There's no rule against it. I was just supposing. But I'm pretty sure
> there is no canon example of any suffix occurring between {-taH} and
> {-vIS}. I can only speak for myself, but I expect for most {-neS} would
> seem like a weird interruption, and if {-neS} were called for, would add it
> to the main clause instead. (As for rovers, does anyone even have a
> definite idea what effect {-qu'} or {-be'} would have following {-taH}?)
>
> ~mIp'av
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