[tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS

[SuStel]

On 12/28/2016 2:39 PM, Alan Anderson wrote:
>
>     As SuStel said, {Soch DIS vorgh} is a time stamp. As was said
>     earlier in this thread, time stamps don't require the {qaStaHvIS}.
>     So, in the {Soch DIS vorgh jIQuch}, where is the problem ?
>
>
> I haven't seen a message where he said that {Soch DIS vorgh} is a time 
> stamp. On the contrary, I have seen him pointing out that counting 
> days or years makes them *not* a time stamp.

I said *DIS vorgh *is a time stamp. You're not counting it; you're 
labeling it. *cha' DIS vorgh* would be counting years. *DISvam jatlhchoH 
puq. DIS vorgh yItchoH puq. cha' ben boghpu' puq.* I don't feel 
comfortable saying **cha' DIS vorgh boghpu' puq* because it sounds like 
"the previous two years" rather than "two years previously"; it sounds 
like I'm counting years instead of choosing a moment in time. If there 
were such a thing as a **cha'DIS*/biyear, /then it might make sense, but 
there is no such thing. If there were such a thing as a 
**SochDIS*/seven-year,/ then I would accept **SochDIS vorgh* as 
referring to the /previous seven-year,/ but there is no such thing as a 
seven-year. If you said *Soch DIS vorgh poH jIQuch* I would accept it, 
because here you're LABELING your time span as the /period of time of 
the previous seven years./ It would parallel *vatlh DIS poH vorgh 
jIboghpu'*/I was born in the previous century./ It's telling me WHEN 
something happened, not HOW LONG something took.

Many time stamps can be time spans as well, BUT NOT AT THE SAME TIME (no 
pun intended). *DISvam* /this year/ can LABEL a year in which something 
happens, OR it can simply be acted on as a thing in and of itself, as a 
time span. This is where you're getting confused: determining which time 
spans can act as time stamps. A time stamp tells me WHEN something 
happens; a time span does not all by itself.

-- 
SuStel
http://trimboli.name

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