[tlhIngan Hol] to qaStaHvIS or not to qaStaHvIS

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Tue Dec 27 10:53:14 PST 2016


Use the corresponding verbs {Qoj} or {ghob}:


(KGT 47):  In parallel fashion, any specific battle is {may'}, but the concept of battle is {vIq}, often translated as combat. Similarly, there are several verbs for fight, battle, and the like. Most broadly, do battle or wage war--that is, actually engage in a conflict in which a number of combatants are involved--is {ghob}. The notion of make war in the general sense, referring to the idea of war and not a specific war, is {Qoj}. The verb for fight, whether in a war or a one-on-one confrontation, is {Suv}. In short, the nouns {veS} (war, warfare) and {vIq} (combat) and the verb {Qoj} (wage war) all are used to refer to the ideas of warfare, combat, and making war, while the nouns {noH} (war) and {may'} (battle) and the verbs {ghob} (make war, do battle) and {Suv} (fight) are used when referring to specific, concrete instances of war, battle, and fighting. Thus it is possible to say ... {may' ghob} or {may' Suv}, meaning He/she fights a battle, but it is not normally acceptable to say ... {vIq Suv} (He/she fights a combat).

--Voragh


On Behalf Of mayqel qunenoS

SuStel:
> I don't think one can yIn a may'

hehehe.. you're right ! I just couldn't think of any other word !
qunnoH jan puqloD
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 27 Dec 2016 8:29 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name<mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
On 12/27/2016 1:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
SuStel:
> like a single fight during a period of three
> years

I guess this means something like:

{qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa' may' neH wIyIn}
we only had one battle during three years

right ?


Er... I don't think one can yIn a may'... But qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa' may' neH wISuv would be correct.
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